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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: A Must Read ========
Frederick
Not a "brilliant review" but an
emotional bouquet of some truths, some errors, some untruths and some
Hitlerian propaganda.
It was Elie Wiesel who chose to leave
Auschwitz with the Germans instead of waiting for the Russians, not
Simon Wiesenthal.
Russian soldiers raped German women, not
Polish and not Hungarian. They had an order to behave in Poland
but do what they felt like once they crossed to Germany. German
soldiers raped too, but in a different way. They caught women to
be prostitutes in hotels "for Germans only". These women
were kept as prisoners, regularly checked by doctors for infectious
diseases. One such hotel/restaurant was the Hotel Astoria on
49 Chmielna St. in Warsaw. Probably in 1942, during a Russian air
raid, the civilian Polish population that lived in another part of the
building and the German soldiers from the hotel/restaurant all hid
together in the cellars and all were frightened. The women
hostages were left locked up in the hotel. I remember standing
next to a German soldier who was shaking with fright and I, frightened
too, kept pulling at his arm asking when the air raid will end. At
one time, during the Warsaw Uprising in 1944, some extremely gruesome
photographs of sexual torture of these women by Germans in uniform were
scattered out of that building when the building was hit.
Germans dropped bombs on civilian
population in Warsaw right at the beginning of the War. I was there. I
became sick with panic so that my Mother took me out toward
Eastern Poland with the hope of escaping the bombs and also to connect
with my Father who was then stationed in Brzesc on the Bug River.
As we, and thousands of other civilians with children tried to
escape the city, German planes would come low and machine-gun. I
remember, one day, already quite a distance East, my Mother and I
hid in a field of carrots when we heard a German plane approaching.
Next to that field was a field with stacks of harvested buckwheat.
And to a side a little boy tending several cows. The German
pilot kept returning to shoot at the buckwheat stacks and at the boy and
his cows killing the child and the cows.
The writer, and other Germans who remind
that it was the Soviets who killed Polish officers at Katyn, conveniently
withhold that those soldiers were killed because, in the first place,
Hitler attacked Poland. Secondly, they fell to the Russians
because of the Hitler's pact with them in 1939. While the
Russians were murdering Poles in the East, the Germans were rounding up
Polish professors, teachers, doctors, lawyers, top of the society and
murdering them.
The stories of Poles murdering
Germans in 1939 the Western borders is a known Hitlerian
propaganda which has been debunked by historians, including German. That
propaganda was in preparations years before 1939 in order to make the
Germans soldiers better killers of Poles when the War would start. At
the onset of the War, Germans who lived in Poland quickly became
the Fifth Column. Those by the Western borders were shooting
at Polish soldiers who then retaliated.
When next you come here, I will show you
German photographs of what the Germans did to Poland. The
German claims to lands is almost amusing considering that Dresden
is a Slavic name, Rostock (Rostok, roztoka) is a Polish word pertaining to
water. Germans took part in the partitions of Poland. German
terms as "Lebenstraum", - with the view to the East of course,
and "Drang nach osten (spelling ?)" are proof of German
historic intentions.
It is not a good idea to be so selective
and convoluting history. In effect, you are doing the same as the
Jews.
Have a good day or night, whichever
applies.
Dana
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:57 PM
Subject: DEBUNKING DANA
Dear
Dana
It
was Elie Wiesel who chose to leave Auschwitz with the Germans instead of
waiting for the Russians, not Simon Wiesenthal.
Russian
soldiers raped German women, not Polish and not Hungarian. They
had an order to behave in Poland but do what they felt like once they
crossed to Germany.
Not
true, according to the testimonies of many German women who
had been raped and beaten by Poles, and then forced out of German
territory (that had been stolen by Poland after WW1).
My mother-in-law was acting as a nurse in 1939 and looking after German
refugees fleeing Poland before the war started, she told me that a
number of women had been badly tortured by Poles, some of them had
been nailed through their tongues onto doors and tables and had terrible
wounds (before the war started!!!)
German
soldiers raped too, but in a different way. They caught women to
be prostitutes in hotels "for Germans only". These women
were kept as prisoners, regularly checked by doctors for infectious
diseases.
Dana
there is a major difference between women who are paid and work as
prostitutes (such as those who worked in concentration camps for 2RM per
customer) and women who are gang-raped by hordes of men. These women
were not forced to be prostitutes as a matter of fact many tried
to get preganant so they could be freed from factory work....the
Brothels in the concentration camps had radios, music, flowers on the
tables, and their customers bought them perfume, fancy underwear and
jazzrecords, one such brothel was THIS one in Buchenwald Camp (Foto
courtesy of the Camp museum) in it you cann see the flowers, radio and
ashtrays.

One
such hotel/restaurant was the Hotel Astoria on 49 Chmielna St. in
Warsaw. Probably in 1942, during a Russian air raid, the civilian
Polish population that lived in another part of the building and the
German soldiers from the hotel/restaurant all hid together in the
cellars and all were frightened. The women hostages were left
locked up in the hotel.
I
remember standing next to a German soldier who was shaking with fright
and I, frightened too, kept pulling at his arm asking when the air
raid will end. At one time, during the Warsaw Uprising in 1944,
some extremely gruesome photographs of sexual torture of these women by
Germans in uniform were scattered out of that building when the building
was hit.
During
this time of the uprising many Poles put on German uniforms, I have seen
many Polish films on TV here proving this, plus I have many
original photos showing Czechs and Poles dressed in German uniforms
shooting naked German prisoners in the neck after these partisans had
stolen the uniforms...these photos were shown world wide as 'proof' of
German brutality JUST as Stalins STAVKA order which required that
Russian soldiers put on captured German uniforms and destroy Russian
villages(ers) in order to stop the population welcoming the Germans.
Germans dropped
bombs on civilian population in Warsaw right at the beginning of the
War. I was there. I became sick with panic so that my Mother took
me out toward Eastern Poland with the hope of escaping the bombs
and also to connect with my Father who was then stationed in Brzesc on
the Bug River.
What
do you expect after Pilsudski had, in 1919, built 2 concentration
camps and in 1826 another 2 camps, and the Poles imprisoned tens
of thousands of Germans and Ukrainians and forced 50.000 Germans living
in Schlesien, Prussia etc out of their homes.
I have friends who were children then, and whose whole family was
MURDERED by Polish militia BEFORE the war started.
Ridz-Smigly was quoted by the Daily Mail August 6th 1939 as saying
'Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it
even if she wants to!'
Radio Warsaw declared war on Germany at midnight of the 31st Aug 1939,
and Dana tell us all what it says on this Polish placard printed in 1930
threatening Germany...in 1930 Germany was NOT threatening Poland was
it???? So WHO was the aggressor????

As
we, and thousands of other civilians with children tried to escape
the city, German planes would come low and machine-gun. I
remember, one day, already quite a distance East, my Mother and I
hid in a field of carrots when we heard a German plane approaching.
Next to that field was a field with stacks of harvested buckwheat.
And to a side a little boy tending several cows. The German
pilot kept returning to shoot at the buckwheat stacks and at the boy and
his cows killing the child and the cows.
The
writer, and other Germans who remind that it was the Soviets who killed
Polish officers at Katyn, conveniently withhold that those soldiers were
killed because, in the first place, Hitler attacked Poland.
Secondly, they fell to the Russians because of the Hitler's pact with
them in 1939. While the Russians were murdering Poles in the
East, the Germans were rounding up Polish professors, teachers, doctors,
lawyers, top of the society and murdering them.
Dana
this is total rubbish, Hitler made a pact with Russia AFTER
he tried to make friendly gestures to Poland remember it was GERMAN and
AUSTRIAN troops that freed Poland from Russia in 1917...and 4 years
later the Polish Govt stole large areas of German territory.
The
stories of Poles murdering Germans in 1939 the Western
borders is a known Hitlerian propaganda which has been debunked by
historians, including German. That propaganda was in preparations
years before 1939 in order to make the Germans soldiers better
killers of Poles when the War would start. At the onset of the War, Germans
who lived in Poland quickly became the Fifth Column. Those by
the Western borders were shooting at Polish soldiers who then
retaliated.
OH
REALLY !! Then Dana you should write to the German Govt demanding this
book be taken off the market because its got all the documentation in it
regarding the MURDER of thousands of German civilians by Polish Militia
in 1939 AND please tell my friend Siegfried who STILL has the
bayonet wound in his arm that killed his grandfather that the Poles were
NOT murdering innocent civilians (5700 in Bromberg alone)

When
next you come here, I will show you German photographs of what the
Germans did to Poland. The German claims to lands is
almost amusing considering that Dresden is a Slavic name, Rostock (Rostok,
roztoka) is a Polish word pertaining to water. Germans took
part in the partitions of Poland. German terms as "Lebenstraum",
- with the view to the East of course, and "Drang nach osten
(spelling ?)" are proof of German historic intentions.
Poland
did NOT exist before the year AD 966, we know that for sure by
admissions made in 1956 by the Polish Bishops Stefan Wyszynski and Karol
Woytyla, who had been commissioned to write an historical letter of
"Reconciliation" The Polish language was only
invented around 1466 and the Polish King Casimir spoke German and the
first Polish books were printed in Germany in 1521.
Danzig had already been established by Germans in the year 740, which is
therefore around 200 years before Poland was created and the so-called
Polish names of Rostock and Danzig etc...well Polish was derived from
German NOT the other way around...
Gute Nacht....Paul aus Hamburg
It
is not a good idea to be so selective and convoluting history. In
effect, you are doing the same as the Jews.
Have
a good day or night, whichever applies.
Dana
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: A Must Read ========