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Dear Fellow Patriot!
25 December 2003
I would have thought everyone would be spending time
with their families, since it is Christmas Day. But, I
guess after the meal, your addiction to the Patriot
Letter was overwhelming, so you sat down and e-mail
your favorite correspondent!
Thank you all for the many, many Christmas greetings.
They are really appreciated.
Now, let's roll ahead full steam. The Sacramento Bee
printed an article this morning about Israeli soldiers
visiting schools, telling the children about the war.
Below you will find the article in its entirety. The
obvious question for me, what the hell are foreign
soldiers doing in our schools, teaching kids about a
war in foreign countries. But, here it comes; the
soldiers were at Jewish schools and were telling
Jewish children about their war. Now that makes it
clear what side they are on. So, enjoy:
[START]
Students learn of Israeli army life
By Thuy-Doan Le -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 a.m. PST Thursday, December 25, 2003
It's hard to imagine the two young, fresh-faced
speakers at Shalom School to be anything more than
high school or college students, but they are
first-class lieutenants in the Israel Defense Forces.
The two soldiers took a break from their duties to
talk about their life in the army during a two-week
tour through five cities, including Seattle, Portland,
Ore., and Salt Lake City.
They made a stop last week at Shalom School,
Sacramento's only Jewish community day school. The
soldiers are from Sacramento's sister cities in Israel
-- Kiryat Malachi and Hof Ashkelon, in the western
Negev, about an hour from Jerusalem.
"We brought them here to talk to the community about
life in the army," said Phyllis Cohen, executive
director of The Jewish Federation of Sacramento
Region. "It is important for the children to
understand what is happening in Israel."
About 100 children listened to the soldiers speak
about their experiences.
Michal Cohen, 20, who grew up in Moshav Nir Israel in
the region of Hof Ashkelon, enlisted in the army when
she was 18.
Cohen revealed that her mother, who was from
Massachusetts, fell in love at 18 and moved to Israel
a year later.
Cohen, an education officer who teaches English and
history to soldiers in Israel, said television shows
such as "Dawson's Creek" portray kids going to college
after high school, but in Israel, students enlist in
the army after they graduate from high school.
She said she plans to attend college after she
completes her army service.
Women must serve at least two years, while men are
required to serve three years. After that, Israelis
must serve 30 days a year until women reach age 34 and
men age 45.
Eyal Sulimani, 22, who grew up in Kiryat Malachi, is
an army paratrooper. At age 14, he started studying at
the army's boarding school in Haifa. Sulimani said he
recently signed up to serve in the army for an
additional three years.
Sulimani held up a burgundy beret and told his
audience that he had to walk 70 miles in one day to
receive it.
Students peppered the soldiers with questions about
their weapons, what it was like in battles and their
sentiments about being in the army.
Sulimani said he loves being in the army, and it makes
him proud to be part of it. He said he has been shot
at but not wounded.
"I've been in a few battles, and it's not like World
War II," he said. "It's much shorter." He said that so
far, his longest battle lasted 10 hours.
The soldiers are trained to use a variety of weapons,
but the most popular is the M-16, Cohen said.
When the local students were polled about whether
they've visited Israel, about half of the hands shot
up.
Joan Gusinow, Shalom School director, said many
students and their parents have connections to Israel
and that the school is committed to the Jewish
culture.
She said many of the students, who have been studying
Hebrew, were excited to hear from people who speak the
language.
Gusinow said the school wanted to help students
"experience other people from other parts of the
world."
Michal Kohane, head of the school's Hebrew department,
said the Hebrew language and the Jewish culture are
intertwined for many students.
While it is easier for people to be apolitical in the
United States, she said, it's harder to be apolitical
in Israel. She said students at the school are
somewhere in between.
The soldiers told the students that before the army,
they went to school six days a week, studying subjects
such as math, history, English, literature and the
Bible.
Cohen said students study English until 12th grade,
and they must pass an examination in English to
graduate.
The soldiers also discussed becoming officers.
Sulimani described his happiest moment as being when
he learned that he would be an officer in the
paratrooper group in which he trained.
Cohen said one of her most memorable moments was when
she helped a soldier, who did not know all his
letters, learn enough English to pass a test to attend
college in Long Island, N.Y.
They said a higher rank comes with more
responsibility.
Cohen said officers have to be role models for their
soldiers, and they have to be proud and polite because
they represent the army.
Sulimani said being in the army is hard, but when
people finish their service, it feels as if they've
accomplished a great deal.
Jesse Simons, a Shalom sixth-grader, said the soldiers
added a different element to his education because
they are examples of Israeli life.
After the session, Cohen said life in Israel is
similar to the United States in that kids watch
television and eat at McDonald's.
[END]
*******************************************************
We continue the Grubach/Mathis controversy with a few
comments by me first: Mr. Mathis is probably the most
vulgar PhD I have ever run into. Even though he
apologizes to me for his vulgarities, he still uses
them.
I am on Paul Grubach's side, so, even though Mr.
Mathis is treating me quite friendly and even asked me
to put him on my mailing list, I really don't care
much for him. Let's get rolling:
[START]
Subject: Some remarks to clarify the present debate.
For Widest Publication as you like.
Michael:
Seems that "HGC" [Homicidal Gas Chambers] have been
quite clearly defined over the years but that WMD
[Weapons of Mass Destruction] have not.
I take the clear position that as of December 24, 2003
with large numbers of troops on the ground in Iraq
with many highly trained personnel looking FOR such
WMD, we do well to restrain our opinions about the
existence of WMD for the near future.
1) Not to find something is NOT equal to its NEVER
having existed. [Creationists often use this argument
VERY effectively against Darwinist Evolutionists.]
2) Does WMD have to be nuclear? I think not. Could
be stores of anthrax and other CBR [chemical,
biological, radiological] weapons, as well as perhaps
some we in the West do not know [which is unlikely].
3) The USA and France and Britain and Israel and
Russia and China and Libya clearly possess WMD.
THEREFORE, the mere possession of WMD is NOT what is
in question. Perhaps the question has not been
clearly framed yet.
4) Three Boeing made airliners became on September 11,
2001 WMD. I assert this datum as being beyond doubt
and on a similar level to a beautiful Peugeot 607
becoming a WMD if the driver decides to aim it at high
speed into a crowd of innocents on the Champs Elysees.
THEREFORE, the perpetrators [putatively Osama
bin-Laden and his cohorts] employed WMD against
thousands of innocents in NYC and DC and in some sense
of the word "had", they HAD WMD.
In conclusion, I think it very risky for Revisionism
to make an analogy of the alleged HGC to WMD in, say,
recent controversies. The alleged HGC have been
quite carefully examined-yet NOT fully examined, since
the authorities will not allow a scientific team to
research and excavate. Unlike the UN WMD teams under
Dr. Hans Blitz up until March of 2003. As for the
alleged "gas vans", Revisionists only have to demand
that "the Holocaustists" present whatever physical
evidence they have found: plans, designs, drawings,
blueprints, field tests, production sites, engineers
who made the modifications to existing trucks,
operators who actually drove them, paper documents of
the million or so [David Irving's belief stat from the
Lipstadt trial?] Jews murdered in them, and finally
actual gas van machinery found somewhere whose chain
of custody can be demonstrated ["chain of custody" is
a legal phrase especially important for narcotics
arrests].
Until "the Holocaustists" furnish evidence that can
be set forth in a court of law [and, a court of law
outside present day Israel and outside the former
Soviet Union under Stalin], then Revisionists have no
need to assert belief IN or disbelief in such alleged
gas vans. Revisionists need only affirm scepticism
on the same level as for the alleged lost world of
"Atlantis" and a physical Garden of Eden in ancient
Iraq.
Faurisson is quite right to insist that we not confuse
"belief" with scientific conclusion that is based on
physical and other convincing evidence. Thus, I can
affirm that the Holocaust side has NOT presented
convincing evidence on HGC that leads me to agree with
its position. Same for the alleged mobile gas vans
used by Germans on a systematic basis; but based on a
film and some eyewitness testimony, I DO affirm that
Stalin had such vans built in the late 1930s, and that
these "Black Ravens" [see our DISSECTING THE HOLOCAUST
book] were in fact used.
At bottom, what Faurisson has done in response to Mark
Weber's fuzzy statements on all this is to attempt to
clarify the issues. And my remarks here today are in
the same vein: to clarify what I hold to be an unwise
analogy of the HGC [and MGV (mobile gas vans)] with
WMD.
Sincerely,
Robert H. Countess, Ph.D.
Ancient Greek
email: boblbpinc@earthlink.net
28755 Sagewood Circle
Toney, AL 35773 USA
Phone: (256) 232-4940 Cell: (256) 653-7598
Fax: (256) 232-4940
[END]
And now Dr. Faurisson responds:
[START]
To Robert Countess:
By reading your stuff on Faurisson, I am not sure
someone could infer that Faurisson wrote :
1) "But there were also differences [between Hitler's
and Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction]. First, the
lie against Hitler was about impossible and
inconceivable WMD (for physical and chemical reasons)
while the lie against Saddam Hussein was about quite
possible and conceivable WMD since his accusers
himself had the same kind of weapons ..."
2) "I recommend [that watchword] for as long as the
Allies have not found Saddam's secret weapons".
A valid comment of a statement must never give the
impression that something was not in that statement
while, in fact, it was clearly in it.
Sorry I have no time to continue that kind of
discussion. I have to work.
I agree with Walter Mueller that we should now look to
the future and try to launch a clear and combative
revisionism without perpetual waffling, chattering,
gossiping.
This is not to be published precisely since we should
go and work seriously.
RF
[END]
Paul Grubach to Mathis
[START]
In a message dated 12/25/2003 1:07:02 AM Eastern
Standard Time, A E Mathis PhD writes:
? But even if you sued me (for what, exactly?), I'd
simply subpoena David Duke (he's easy enough to find
now, ain't he?) for an affidavit on your relationship
with him. He'd have to tell the truth, or he'd stay in
the cooler even longer. Can you imagine a "character
reference" for you from David Duke and the personal
damage it would do to you in a court?
I have written for EURO--the European Unity and Rights
Organization. Just as it is socially and morally
acceptable for Jews to be associated with
organizations that work for the self-determination and
self-preservation of Jews, so too, it should be
socially and morally acceptable for non-Jewish
European Americans to be associated with organizations
that work for the self-determination and
self-preservation of their ethnic group. Be my
guest--if our association ever ends up in court (which
it could), go right ahead and subpoena David
Duke--this does not bother me in the least. If I ever
meet you in court, I will make a fool of you and gain
much publicity for the Holocaust revisionist cause and
the cause of Euro-American rights.
Keep your emails coming. An attorney friend of mine
examined your emails and he said that they suggest
that you are a very emotional man who very easily
flies into a rage, and thus becomes irrational. This
may prove useful in a court of law.
Looking forward to your response,
Paul Grubach
[END]
Mathis responds:
[START]
You're a stupid man. A very, very stupid man.
You wrote me an accusatory e-mail. I *accidentally*
left out a word when I responded. You're making a
federal fucking case over it. So I apologize for that.
But you're clearly miffed about much, much more. Your
threats of litigation are absurd. First of all, we
have no "association."
There's you and there's me. There's no "we" involved,
get it? But even if you sued me (for what, exactly?),
I'd simply subpoena David Duke (he's easy enough to
find now, ain't he?) for an affidavit on your
relationship with him. He'd have to tell the truth, or
he'd stay in the cooler even longer. Can you imagine a
"character reference" for you from David Duke and the
personal damage it would do to you in a court?
A hint, Paul: Think things through before you say
stupid things. If possible. And get a fucking grip,
OK?
Mr. Mueller can publish what he wants. I didn't
copyright my response, which is permanently at RODOH.
I *would* appreciate it if, rather than cutting and
pasting my text, he do as Dr. Töben, who is, I must
admit, a gentleman and has been whenever I've dealt
with him, and simply post a link to RODOH (or at least
add a link to RODOH -- Mr. Mueller, I can give you a
link if you're agreeable to doing so).
Next, Jewish organizations. I'll tell you what: Go
ahead and phone every major Jewish organization in the
U.S. that takes some part in the "Holocaust debate"
and say that I said this (quote me directly): You
people are fucking idiots. If you don't know the
rules, stay out of the game." I don't care. Repeat: I
DON'T CARE. I've always been a bęte noir among
anti-revisionists. I'm used to it. The day THHP
receives ADL money (we exist solely on donations from
private citizens) is the day I resign. Seriously. And
as much as I hold them in contempt, I hold the Simon
Wiesenthal Center in even lower regard. They've done
so much damage to my cause that I wish they were
abducted by aliens. And the Southern Poverty Law
Center? Southern Poverty Bullshit. Quote me on that.
If I was still working for HateWatch when David
Goldman sold to SPLC, I'd have voted against it and
been *very* public about it.
Finally, I believe you and all the other miscreants
who side with Jonnie Hargis are pissed that apparently
I'm going to debate Dr. Countess (also a nice guy),
and Rudolf is getting no cut of it. Remember this: You
guys fucked up, not me.
If you wish that I further abuse you, then by all
means write back. You're fun to play around with. If I
don't censor myself for the ADL, then I'm sure as shit
not going to censor myself for the likes of a racist
like you.
a.m.
P.S. Mr. Mueller, I apologize to you for my language,
but if you do publish this, please don't feel
compelled to change any of the profanity.
I reserve profane language for profane people. And do
quote me on that, please.
[END]]
Grubach to Mathis:
[START]
Once again, I thank you from the bottom of my heart
for your email responses. They can be used in a court
of law and elsewhere to reveal the type of man that
you are. Your latest email, to which I will provide a
partial response here, is attached to this email. My
thorough response to all of your claims is forthcoming
and will be emailed to Walter Mueller for publication
in his online letter.
1. Dr. Mathis wrote: "Furthermore, you [Paul Grubach]
are a nobody: Most deniers have no idea who you are."
This is fine with me. You are going to help me become
more well known because our correspondence will be
posted by Walter Mueller. And furthermore, if we ever
meet in court, then you will help to make me famous. I
will use the opportunity to advance in the Holocaust
revisionist cause and the cause of Euro-American,
Palestinian, and Muslim rights. Many Thanks, Dr.
Mathis.
2. Dr. Mathis wrote: "You are the lowest of the
lowest on the dying breed that you belong to:
Jew-hating losers."
You have resorted to the last refuge of a
scoundrel--the charge of anti-Semitism. You cannot
refute my arguments so you resort to the false claim
that I hate Jews. I don't hate Jews. I am exactly
like Dr. Mathis. I feel a sense of moral outrage
about the wrongs and evil that certain Jewish groups
commit. Just as you have admitted in writing that you
feel a sense of moral outrage directed against certain
Jewish groups, so too with Paul Grubach: he too feels
a sense of moral outrage directed against the wrongs
and evil that certain Jewish groups commit. You
cannot condemn me for the very feelings that you have
admitted in writing to feeling--this would display a
hypocritical double standard on your part. (I have
saved all of your emails where you admit that you hold
certain major Jewish organizations in contempt.)
3. Dr. Mathis writes: I'm 34-years-old and I've never
committed a violent crime. And I'm not "emotional," as
this genius seems to believe;"
Committing violent crimes has nothing to do with what
this attorney is talking about. What the attorney
pointed out is that you easily fly off into an
emotional rage at the slightest intellectual
provocation, and then become irrational. We can use
your emails to demonstrate this in court and
elsewhere. For example, you wrote to me: "Do fuck
off, now, Paul" My attorney friend pointed out that a
judge or jury may very well say that you could not
refute my arguments so you resorted to foul language
in an attempt to get your point across.
Once again, Dr. Mathis, I thank you for all of your
emails. I do wish you all the best, and I encourage
you to continue to send me more emails.
All the best,
Paul Grubach
[END]
Mathis to Grubach:
[START]
"In a message dated 12/25/2003 3:20:13 AM Eastern
Standard Time, grub222 writes:
Once again, I thank you from the bottom of my heart
for your email responses. They can be used in a court
of law and elsewhere to reveal the type of man that
you are. Your latest email, to which I will provide a
partial response here, is attached to this email. My
thorough response to all of your claims is forthcoming
and will be emailed to Walter Mueller for publication
in his online letter."
That's great, Paul, really. Good work.
1. Dr. Mathis wrote: "Furthermore, you [Paul Grubach]
are a nobody: Most deniers have no idea who you are."
This is fine with me. You are going to help me become
more well known because our correspondence will be
posted by Walter Mueller. And furthermore, if we ever
meet in court, then you will help to make me famous. I
will use the opportunity to advance in the Holocaust
revisionist cause and the cause of Euro-American,
Palestinian, and Muslim rights. Many Thanks, Dr.
Mathis.
Do you know the meaning of the word "relevance"? If
you filed a libel case against me, then my attorney
(who would work for free, by the way) would argue the
relevance of any of your causes to the case of libel.
You're not David Irving, Paul. He's actually an
intelligent man.
2. Dr. Mathis wrote: "You are the lowest of the
lowest on the dying breed that you belong to:
Jew-hating losers."
You have resorted to the last refuge of a
scoundrel--the charge of anti-Semitism. You cannot
refute my arguments so you resort to the false claim
that I hate Jews. I don't hate Jews. I am exactly
like Dr. Mathis. I feel a sense of moral outrage
about the wrongs and evil that certain Jewish groups
commit. Just as you have admitted in writing that you
feel a sense of moral outrage directed against certain
Jewish groups, so too with Paul Grubach: he too feels
a sense of moral outrage directed against the wrongs
and evil that certain Jewish groups commit. You
cannot condemn me for the very feelings that you have
admitted in writing to feeling--this would display a
hypocritical double standard on your part. (I have
saved all of your emails where you admit that you hold
certain major Jewish organizations in contempt.)
Paul: I don't care what you save and what you don't,
get it?
Your writing reveals that you have a downright
obsession with Jews. I went through your "race
library" at Duke's Web site and saw that few, if any,
go without mentioning Jews as a "racial group." That
you publish for a known Nazi (Duke) doesn't help your
case much.
I argue against certain Jewish groups because I
believe what they do is harmful to the Jewish people.
You argue against certain Jewish groups to further
defame Jews.
3. Dr. Mathis writes: I'm 34-years-old and I've never
committed a violent crime. And I'm not "emotional," as
this genius seems to believe;"
Committing violent crimes has nothing to do with what
this attorney is talking about. What the attorney
pointed out is that you easily fly off into an
emotional rage at the slightest intellectual
provocation, and then become irrational. We can use
your emails to demonstrate this in court and
elsewhere. For example, you wrote to me: "Do fuck
off, now, Paul" My attorney friend pointed out that a
judge or jury may very well say that you could not
refute my arguments so you resorted to foul language
in an attempt to get your point across.
So sue me, Paul. Please do.
Once again, Dr. Mathis, I thank you for all of your
emails. I do wish you all the best, and I encourage
you to continue to send me more emails.
Save the goodwill for someone who would reciprocate.
Do fuck off, Paul. At some point I'll lose interest in
you, and then your e-mails will be most unwelcome.
a.m.
[END]
*******************************************************
And here is a great commentary from Paul Krupp on the
"Squabble Problem:
[START]
COMMENTARY
Our Squabble-Problem
By Paul Krupp
I must say; the bashing amongst Revisionists and other
truth-seekers goes on unabated despite the calls from
sensible heads not to indulge in it, since it only
creates resentment in groups who, really, if they
honestly fight against the most evil force in the
Universe, should be working together against the
common foe. It creates "parties", groups of "for and
against", "left and right" in other words, all efforts
sink into the morass of incompetence and inside
squabbling.
Looking at the subversive forces ruling the globe for
the past 1000 years, there were always icons,
philosophies or religious guidelines to follow without
wavering from them. There were Karl Marx, Lenin,
Yahweh, Martin Luther, any Pope, Jesus, Mohammad. They
all are icons for the followers. They all left
"Bibles" and philosophies behind to continue their
struggle and aims. They all are, perhaps with the
exception of Jesus and Luther, remote controlled
"anti-fascists", going back hundreds of years. But
none of these icons has really brought a solution to
the global problem - Judaism. They all served their
own philosophical agendas, therefore, weakening their
struggles or serving Judea directly, no matter how
disastrous they affected the rest of the world.
Post WW2 Revisionists are struggling against the
biggest lie ever perpetrated onto mankind; the
holocaust. And the icon of that "evil" called
holocaust, is Adolf Hitler and the Germanic Aryans.
These Germanic Europeans and their descendants around
the world have an exceptional drive for freedom and
truth, whether they like it or not. It's not the
Negro, not the Asian, nor the amalgamated races of
indefinable origin. However, Germanic people, often
called "Aryans", squabble too much amongst themselves
over ideology and methods, a problem the "others"
rarely have, at least not on a grand scale like the
Germanic Aryans. One only needs to listen to the
great German philosophers who always lamented about
the "Zwietracht" (divisiveness) amongst their own
people. That is understandable, since there were/are
no icons to adore, no cohesive guidelines to go by, no
philosophy to believe in.
That all changed when Adolf Hitler came into the
struggle for "Freedom from Judaism". He become the
Icon for millions of "Aryans" who adored and loved
him, not just in Germany, but where ever Germanic
Aryans lived on this globe. They saw in him the
"savior", the "Almighty's" warrior to deliver them
from Yahweh's slavery. Not only was and is the image
of Adolf Hitler an icon for the oppressed Germans
around the world, he left a legacy of philosophies,
guidelines and instructions how to struggle against
the enemy of mankind. His book "Mein Kampf" is Bible
and guideline for anyone participating in the struggle
against Judaism, his speeches the true gospel.
Revisionist, for what ever reason they are in
Revisionism, must accept Adolf Hitler as their icon,
"Mein Kampf" as their "bible" and his speeches as
their gospel. Adolf Hitler can be a unifying icon.
Only then will the squabbling end. Those who do not
accept him as the "guiding-light" do not understand
what the struggle is all about and should join the
other side.
How can one be a Revisionist on the one hand, trying
to revise the jewish lies about the holocaust which
are dishonoring and defaming all those who still have
Germanic characteristics, while on the other hand
condemning Adolf Hitler for his alleged "crimes",
which were no crimes until the victorious powers,
Yahweh's armies, made his struggle for freedom a crime
after the war. After all, the crimes Adolf Hitler is
accused of were committed by his enemies a thousand
fold long before him. The holocaust is a lie and only
faceless misguided elements and multi-racial fanatics
believe and promote it. The holocaust is an oppression
mechanism by which the corrupt democracies hang on to
their power over the world population. And the
gullible masses have to support it.
[END]
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Your Turn:
[START]
I always enjoy reading your e-letters, even when (as
you lament) the subject matter is predictable and
tiresome. I've known Mark Weber as friend, foil, and
occasional colleague for going on two decades now,
and am pretty sure the current acrimony is personal,
not anti-IHR. Mark has put many people's noses out of
joint over the years. He likes to think himself
tactful but is often perceived as duplicitous and
slippery.
Robert Faurisson, conversely, doesn't care much about
tact but likes to stand on principle. You may be aware
that Faurisson tried to pin down David Irving in the
same way, back in 1983-84. One of the results of
that dispute was the departure of Keith Stimely as JHR
editor. Another result was a deep animosity on the
part of both Stimely and Faurisson toward Willis Carto
(who had cut some paragraphs from a Faurisson article
critical of Irving). Carto, too, was trying to be
tactful. But as the old adage goes--Please all, please
none.
The Faurisson-Weber spat is about a difference of
style and presentation, not substance.
MS
[END]
[START]
One of the great things about your e-mail newletter is
the debates (when they can remain civilized) and the
difference in opinions to be aired out in this forum.
Have to side with Paul Grubach in his spat with
Hargis. Also the e-mail from Rabbi Liar was a hoot.
I've known for years that 'The Protocols of Zion' is a
red-herring/strawman document that Rockefeller paid
his jewish stooge (see the english/hebrew versions of
the Talmud), Jacob Schiff (who's grandson married
Gore's daughter - more 'Bloodlines of the Illuminati,
I suppose), paid Lenin to write to finance his future
revolution. The documentation is in the books Fourth
Reich of the Rich and Rockefeller, the Federal Reserve
and his Gold Corner. But right-wingers still want to
point to this document as being legit and the cash
keeps flowing into the Sy Wiesenthal Centre and other
places keeping Rabbi Liar in new skullcaps! No real
revisionist wishing to be taken seriously HAS EVER
used the P.o.Z. as a basis for not believing in gas
chambers, etc. The Protocols can be overlayed by the
Communist manifesto, some of the writings of Albert
Pike, Gizeppi Manzenni, et, al. The only thing that
has been added is the 'goy' (which means one of
the (non-jewish herd) and 'goyim' (the non-jewish
herd). Anybody with a public school education can
figure that out. But when zionist-jewish rabbis get in
trouble for their 'subterfuges', they always scream
about the Protocols in the Alexandria library. There
is a reason it's there. One, the Brits left it there
(remember they were in Palestine before the khazars,
en toto) and also the Egyptians are 35-55 years behind
us in Anti-zionist research.
The rest of what Liar, er, ah Heir crys about is just
as funny. If he and some of his non-biblical followers
would denounce zionism as NOT being judiaism, a lot
of this mess v. 'the jews' (their words, not
necessarily mine) would go away. But there lies the
problem, doesn't it. A case for more study in that
direction. Keep up the good work Walter, you're our
Ernst Zundel while we work on getting Ernst back
where he belongs - mediating the revisionists and our
Type 'A' personalities to the Mark Weber type of
coolness.
Rich Salzer,
Viginia Beach
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I agree Walter, close the book on hate (borrowing from
the ADL morons) By the way, I've already sent a letter
to the Bee criticizing the ADL for prosecuting poor
working class German citizens who claim to be
national socialists, while they do nothing to go after
rich and famous American scumbags who deal in
pornography and prostitution. I'm no national
socialist, but if some German musician whom I've never
heard of goes around declaring himself a Nazi, it is
no deal that concerns me.
I forgot to add to it that giving a declared national
socialist a prison term does absolutely nothing to
invalidate his or her cause. All socialists in general
are those whom in some way have experienced being
either being exploited or abused under "capitalism" or
rather Wal Mart style capitalism. For instance, being
sent to jail even help created more followers for
Hitler.
Michelle Kunert
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