Tuesday, 24 May

From: Patrick McNally
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005
Subject: Hoaxoco$t = Truths + Lies + Half-truths


Most Holocaust industrialists, revisionists, deniers, indifferentists, sceptics, or whatever do agree on the following three propositions:



However, holocaustomaniacs ignore the fact that something called World War II was going on then. And a total of 49,000,000 simple ordinary non-Chosen human beings were murdered, killed, or simply died in the process. If some group wants to separate out its share of the suffering and concentrate only on it, they can be my guest. But at some point they have got to "Move on! Bury it! Forget it! Bad things happen during wars." That was the sage advice the influential Jewish politician, William Cohen, gave the Vietnamese, who were only looking for an apology and not endless billions in handouts, phoney re-education programs, and cosmic victimhood.

The holocaust profiteers argue that the number declined because Hitler and his "willing executioners" murdered each and every one of a mystical 6,000,000. Revisionists can make several different replies:

1.1 Some Jews got disgusted with Zionized Judaism or atheistic Zionism and simply opted out of Jewry and identified themselves as Russians, Poles, etc. Some even intermarried and thereby entered the mass of humanity. That would partially account for the reduction in numbers.

1.2 Many Jews just died in the war right next to and alongside the un-Chosen. Bad things happen during wars. Nothing "holocausty" at all about dying in war! These folks cannot be counted in any special and totally incomprehensible "uniquely unique uniqueness" of a hoaxoco$t.

1.3 Over 150,000 Jews served in Hitler's army. If any of them died, do they count as hoaxco$t victims? Can any Gentiles killed by those Kraut Jews be deducted from any Holyhoax totals?

1.4 Jews should be ashamed of the cowardly role they played during WW2. Why did so few Jews resist the Nazis and fight back? In particular, the silly movie, Swindler's List, painted a very graphic picture of this cowardice. And it was produced, directed, funded, and shoved down the throats of a gullible public by one of the leading and most skillful hoaxoco$t PR hucksters. The ADL [America's Defamation League] would have had a conniption if a Gentile would have made a movie in which a German appeared as the only real man in the whole mess.

1.5 Jews should be ashamed of the treacherous role they played because they fought the Allies much more than the Germans. Zionists stabbed the stupid Brits in the back because Palestine was not handed over to them as fast as they demanded. Can we subtract the number of murdered Brits from the Holyhoax total?



Actually, Theodor Herzl showed greater contempt for the typical European Jew than Hitler ever did. Hitler respected them and simply wanted to "transfer" them out to the "Zionist homeland" their misleaders talked so much of. Hitler's transfer policy was initially exactly like Israel's policy today. British and American leaders would not cooperate with Hitler in this matter, so maybe they are co-responsible with Hitler. Certainly, Zionist misleaders have some responsibility for whatever it was that happened.

Old Adolf did not like a lot of peoples and that is one main reason why he did not defeat the Soviet Army. If he would have liberated Stalin's enslaved peoples rather than enslaving them himself, he would have had an easy victory over the Red Army because millions would have joined him in chasing the Reds out of their countries.

One Soviet general even defected with his whole army, but stupid Hitler would not let him join in the war against Uncle Joe until it was too late. Hitler was a stupid asshole and his victims can be found all over the place, so that nobody can claim a monopoly on victimhood in this whole sordid saga. But certainly the holocaustomania that is inflicted on us today is a direct consequence of his stupidity.



Therefore, Germans did not have a free press or the Internet to investigate and spread news to a wide audience. And there were no elections by which Hitler could be removed. Consequently, the German people did not have the same responsibility for Ariel Hitler that today's Israel, the "only democracy in the Middle East," has for Adolf Sharon. So let's stop the anti-German racist hatred and end the hypocrisy and revenge preached by Daniel Goldhagen, Alley Weasel, and Alan Dershowitz and their ilk!




The Hoaxoco$t is a blood libel against the German people in particular and all other humans in general. It is an accusation of mass murder. Such accusations require a bill of particulars and corpora delicti. So let's have the basic charges and the associated evidence as specific as possible as to:

1. How many were murdered? [Not just died or killed!]

2. Where were they murdered?

3. How were they murdered?

4. When were they murdered?

5. By whom were they murdered





From: Gavin Oughton


Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005



Dear Patrick


I read your article described by it's heading "Hoaxoco$t = Truths + Lies + Half-truths "

It could be said Hitler was elected and he had at least two referenda. As
for the other parties in Germany, they, such as the Sparticists, the
communists and the democratic socialist were all hostile to Hitler and pro
Moscow, so it would be politically impossible for them to share a war
cabinet as did the English "Tories " and Labour.

Nonetheless you are basically correct in my opinion

Gavin Oughton



May. 16, 2005 20:46 | Updated May. 16, 2005 20:53
Wiesenthal Center slams PA TV chief


The Simon Wiesenthal Center called on Palestinian Authority President Abu Mazen to fire the head of Palestinian TV after Palestinian Television carried a live noon sermon on Friday during which Sheikh Ibrahim Mudairis called Jews a "spreading cancer" and repeated the canard that Jews exaggerated the actual numbers killed by the Nazis during the World War II Nazi Holocaust.

The Sheik, speaking in a Gaza Mosque in the presence of uniformed PA police said in part:

"The Jews are the cancer spreading all over the world...the Jews are a virus like AIDS hitting human kind...Jews are responsible for all wars and conflicts...." He went on to say, "Do not ask what Germany did to the Jews but what the Jews did to Germany. Through the Zionist movement the Jews incited many nations to start economic war against Germany and boycotted it...True, the Germans killed and burnt Jews but the Jews exaggerate the numbers to gain propaganda advantages and sympathy..."

"Even in the days of Arafat, we did not see such a blatant antisemitic and Holocaust-denying canard broadcast on Palestinian TV, whose current chief was personally appointed by Abu Mazen," charged Rabbi Marvin Hier and Abraham Cooper, Dean and Associate Dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a leading Jewish Human Rights Group.

"This attack comes just days before Abu Mazen's scheduled meeting with President Bush, and during the week the civilized world commemorated the 60th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany.

"Is this genocidal sermon the kind of peace dividend that the people of Israel can look forward to? The first thing that Abu Mazen should say to President Bush at the White House is that he fired the head of Palestinian Broadcasting and all those associated with the broadcast of this 'big lie,'" Hier and Cooper concluded. Center officials also called on the US government to link funding of Palestinian entities to their actions, not promises.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center is one of the largest international Jewish human rights organizations with over 400,000 member families in the United States. It is an NGO at international agencies including the United Nations, UNESCO, the OSCE, and the Council of Europe.




"For example, if Pluss was discovered to have given misinformation about the Holocaust, that would be a legitimate cause for dismissal", Kreiser said.


Professor With Nazi Ties Fired From N.J. University
Former Farleigh Dickinson Professor Member Of American Nazi Party

POSTED: 12:05 pm EDT May 13, 2005

TEANECK, N.J. -- Philadelphia native Jordan Ingram always thought his history professor at Fairleigh Dickinson University was a little quirky.

Jacques Pluss certainly had an unusual style, Ingram recalled. But Ingram, who is black, never thought his professor was a racist -- until after Pluss was fired.

Pluss, 51, said he was dismissed in March because university officials learned about his involvement in the National Socialist Movement, which bills itself as "America's Nazi Party." School officials said he was let go for missing too many classes.

Pluss, who had taught at the university since 2002, said he joined the neo-Nazi group in February but kept his views a secret on campus. Off campus, however, he didn't hold back.

Shortly after his dismissal, he went on "White Viewpoint," a radio show on the National Socialist Movement Web site, to talk about FDU's "Jewish plutocratic university" and described the school's men's basketball team as "nigger to the core."

"They (the players) have absolutely no right to be in that classroom because they do not possess either the merit or the enhanced intelligence to be there," he said on the show.

Those views were shocking to many of his former students, including Ingram, a sophomore from Philadelphia who earned a B-plus in a History of Western Civilization class taught by Pluss in the fall of 2003. Ingram said he thought so highly of Pluss that he considered asking him for a recommendation for a job or academic program.

Ingram's opinion changed quickly after word of Pluss' neo-Nazi involvement spread on the campus of this private, liberal arts college less than a half hour from New York City.

"To come in every day and know you're going to have class with a white supremacist, that's definitely going to affect me," Ingram said.

Pluss' story has been big news on the campus of Fairleigh Dickinson, a college that emphasizes diversity and teaching with an international perspective. For example, it has frequent guest speakers from the United Nations, and some public bathrooms are identified with signs in 16 languages. About 1,000 of the school's roughly 10,000 students come from outside the United States.

Pluss bristles when he's called a white supremacist or a racist.

"The world is made up of different cultures, all of which have a place, all of which have a direction and all of which should have a say in determining their own futures," he said.

Pluss said he joined the socialist group, whose members wear Nazi regalia at their meetings and sometimes hold joint meetings with the Ku Klux Klan, because he "was looking for alternative political parties that presented what I thought were more solid and sensible plans for the common good of America."

The party's 25-point platform includes limiting U.S. citizenship to non-Jewish, straight whites. Nonwhites should not be allowed to enter the country and those already here should be "required to leave the nation forthwith and return to their land of origin: peacefully or by force," it states.

Some former students said they did not think Pluss' views influenced his teaching.

Only in retrospect does Sharrod Young, an FDU sophomore who had a class with Pluss in 2003, see signs of discrimination.

"When it was two people raising their hands, he called on certain students. It just so happened it was white males," said Young, who is black.

University officials won't elaborate on Pluss' dismissal, following their lawyers' advice not to discuss a personnel matter. So it's unclear what role, if any, Pluss' political views played in his ouster.

Pluss, who received a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago, is being paid through this semester. Adjunct professors at the school generally make between $1,500 and $3,000 per course.

A university is within its rights to remove faculty members for their political views under certain circumstances, according to Robert Kreiser, a senior program officer at the Washington-based American Association of University Professors, an organization that often gets involved in academic freedom cases.

For example, if Pluss was discovered to have given misinformation about the Holocaust, that would be a legitimate cause for dismissal, Kreiser said.

Pluss says he didn't talk about this in class, but questions the way the Holocaust is described as the killing of 6 million Jews in Nazi concentration camps. He said more research needs to be done to know the truth of what happened.

"I don't deny that a Jewish Holocaust of some kind occurred," he said in his customary dry, dispassionate voice. "However, I do believe that the Holocaust needs to be re-examined from a general vantage point. How many were really killed? Under what circumstances?"

With Pluss now off campus, there is still simmering anger about him.

Some anger has been directed at Pluss' girlfriend, Jessica Stephens, a 21-year-old sophomore who had taken one of his classes. Such student-faculty relationships are not strictly forbidden but strongly discouraged under university policy.

Stephens left FDU in April, claiming she was harassed by students who called her a "Nazi lover." Tension grew when the socialist group threatened to send guards to campus so she could take her final exams.

In the weeks since Pluss left campus, his neo-Nazi agenda appears to have gained traction.

He said if he had not been dismissed, he would not have landed appearances on talk radio shows in New Jersey and St. Louis as well as Alan Colmes' national show, giving Pluss a wide -- and judging from the callers, largely hostile -- audience.

Pluss said the publicity from his dismissal helped the socialist organization, which has a post office box in Minneapolis, grow in membership from about 470 to roughly 650. Jeff Schoep, commander of the group, would not confirm those numbers or talk about the size of the membership.



Nuremberg 2005


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