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From: "Tom Sunic" tomislav.sunic@zg.hinet.hr

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:45 AM

Subject: FW: Croatia Holocaust Info (see below) The Vatican crimes

 

Dear Ladies, Sirs, dear Sir,

Ps. I must have read over the last 30 years hundreds of mickey mouse stories by Yugoslav court historians

("Hofhistoriker") and other itinerant Western imported con men hagiographers - who are often well paid..

I am an great lover of fairy tales and many magic surrealist authors, such as Perrault, Andersen,

Brüder Grimm, let alone Lovecraft, E. Poe etc..

But this victimological narrative about Ustasha crimes surpasses the imagination of a man

under (UTI) potent custom made hallucinogenics, such as peyotl and lysurgic acid.

Who benefits. Cui bono?

 

Lesson?: From the psychological (non-Freudian) perspective it may reflect the cover up for

one's own crime and projection onto the Other of crimes committed against Croats.

When I was 17 I used to chant: "What the heck.. everybody must get stoned once in a while" !

see bellow and regards

Dr. Tom Sunic

Croatia

www.watemark.hu/doctorsunic/

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Pope John Paul II's recent apologies for the Holocaust era Vatican holds

little weight with the heirs and few elderly survivors of one of the

bloodiest chapters in the history of the Roman Catholic Church - the

1941-1945 atrocities by the fanatically Catholic Ustashi.

 

The Ustashi regime was Nazi Germany's wartime puppet

http://suc.org/politics/war_crimes/srebrenica/ustashi.html state in

what was then called Croatia. The Ustashi were a lot like the Nazis

themselves, only worse. They systematically and mercilessly robbed,

murdered, or deported their Serb, Roma, and Jewish populations. Gold and

other valuables of all these victims were worth as much as $80 million.

They became a part of the Ustashi treasury.

 

A lawsuit filed nearly a year ago in federal court in San Francisco,

Alperin et al versus Vatican Bank and Franciscans OFM (USDC ND CA, C99-

4941 MMC), accuses the Croatian Franciscans OFM of Word War II

atrocities including leading pogroms against Serbs and Jews, burning

Serbs alive in their churches and providing commanders for Croatian-Nazi

concentration camps. This little-known but shameful period in the

history of Roman Catholic Church is well documented by both Yugoslav and

independent American sources.

 

Alperin et al are suing to recover hundreds of millions of dollars of

property looted by the Croatian Nazis, converted to gold, and held by

the Vatican Bank for safekeeping. Rumors had long circulated about the

fantastic wealth that allowed Croatian war criminals to escape justice

and live lives of luxury in South America, Spain, and even California.

In June 1998 a U.S. State Department report

http://www.usemb.se/nazigold/ustasha.html confirmed the story. The

Vatican Bank's sordid history has been well documented. The short

version is that the Bank, a major player on the world financial stage,

was caught red-handed laundering bogus paper for the Gambino crime

family, and that was just the tip of the iceberg. There's lots more (see

Read up below).

 

More about USDC ND CA, C99- 4941 MMC can be found at

http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com . As you read,

keep an open mind. The suit is not an attack on Catholicism, on

Catholics, on the Catholic Church, on all Franciscans, or even on the

Vatican. It is extremely precise and specific, as are all legal

proceedings, as to what it addresses. To understand it, we must

studiously avoid confusing the church with the religion and the religion

with its practitioners. Otherwise we will find ourselves blaming a fifth

of humanity for the crimes of a few thousand. This isn't about religion.

This is about money and politics. And, yes, it is confusing. But

remember, there's a world of difference between the

http://www.americanatheist.org/pope99/calvi.html Calvis and

http://www.britannica.com/seo/m/michele-sindona/ Sindonas of this

world and the people who cook at the Martin de Porres soup kitchen. All

Catholics are not to blame.

 

Attorney Jonathan Levy has run up against a stone wall in his attempts

to use the Freedom Of Information Act to pry certain documents

concerning this case loose from the clutches of the Department of the

Army and from the CIA. He has recently filed an official FOIA complaint

and has high hopes it will succeed. My own hopes are not so high. This

is the Holocaust we're talking about here, and the truth won't surface

quickly. More than half a century has elapsed, and only recently have

token attempts been made to begin to resolve it. Some people these days

don't even know what the word "Holocaust" means. Of course, this is not

entirely their fault. The official story has been revised a number of

times as has the unofficial story.

 

This may come as somewhat of a surprise to my regular readers, but I too

consider myself to be a Holocaust revisionist, though certainly not in

the common sense. This term, like the term "Nazi" itself, is routinely

thrown about with unscholarly imprecision. So I'm going to define my

position on this very precisely. Otherwise, a lot of you are not going

to read any further, and I wouldn't blame you. Usually, "a Holocaust

revisionist" is a euphemism for a Nazi, a Nazi sympathizer or one of

their dupes. I'm not a Nazi. I hate Nazis. As far as I'm concerned, the

only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. If you feel any differently, you're dead

wrong. They are a cancer on the body politic. It must be excised before

it metastasizes http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/company.html any further.

 

I'm not a Holocaust denier, either. It happened, all right. There's no

doubt about that. Anybody who says that it didn't is lying. One thing I

do object to, though, is it being called "the" Holocaust. It was a

recent holocaust. It was a truly horrific holocaust, arguably the worst

ever. But it was not a unique event, not even close. Mass murder has

plagued human society since the rise of hierarchy. Only the

establishment of a democratic, planetwide, federation of interdependent,

egalitarian societies will put a final end to it. No, I do not mean the

United Nations, the NWO or the neo-liberal, corporate plutocracy. If you

don't know what I do mean http://www.anarchy.org , figure it out.

 

Then there's the matter of the numbers. The current official version is

that "the Holocaust" was the mass murder of 6 million Jews who were

gassed in the various concentration camps. The initial estimates first

bandied about by the Anglo-American and Zionist propaganda machines were

that roughly 4.5 million Jews were killed in the camps. This number was

gradually revised to 6 million for a variety of reasons, some more

credible than others. Some Nazi sympathizers say that this is a lie -

that there were only a few hundred thousands.

 

Other Nazi sympathizers

say there were none at all, that the whole thing was a fabrication from

the get go. This is, of course, ludicrous. But that is no reason to

believe the other versions either. We don't know how many Jews died in

the camps. It was probably more we than think, but we'll never know for

sure, and it doesn't matter. Every one of these various estimates misses

the main point. It is not the numbers but the act that matters. One Jew

dead at Nazi hands was too many.

 

They are missing another, far more important point as well. From the

best evidence, we can safely conclude that around 13 million people died

in the camps alone. They included leftists, communists, anarchists,

homosexuals, Serbs, Roma, Catholics, and prisoners of war, among others.

The legacy of the Holocaust is in no way shape or form solely the

province of Jews. To say that it is demeans the memory of every Jew who

died in every camp, to say nothing of the Jews who died fighting back.

Some, though by no means all, propagandists for the Zionist cause

cheerily stoop this low on a regular basis. Don't believe them.

Though they were also nationalists, the Ustashi were first and foremost

a religious movement. Like all religious movements, it was steeped in ritual.

 

"The head of the Ustashi, its poglavnik, was Ante Pavelic, a veteran of

many Croat right-wing movements. Pavelic molded a political movement

demanding fanatic excess and, in return, offering expiation for these

passions through mysticism, Croatian nationalism, and [Roman]

Catholicism.

 

Upon joining the Ustashi, the novitiaite was immediately indoctrinated

with its mystery and authority. The initiation rite required that one

swear before a crucifix framed by a dagger and a revolver an oath

promising total devotion:

'I swear before God and all that I hold sacred that I will observe the

laws of this society and will execute without condition all that I am

ordered to do by the poglavnik.

I will scrupulously preserve all secrets entrusted to me, and I will

betray nothing, no matter what it might be.

I swear to fight in the Ustashi army for a free, independent Croat state

under the absolute control of the poglavnik. Failing in my oath, I shall

accept death as the penalty. God help me, amen.'"

 

The choice of the three symbols - the crucifix, the dagger, and the

revolver - was not a casual one. The Ustashi "call to blood" that

Pavelic was demanding of his followers would be a religious calling. The

intensity of Croatian [Roman] Catholicism would now be transferred,

Pavelic hoped, to a political movement. The devotion, duty, and

bloodletting that the Ustashi promised, would become a holy war to

create a Croatian state, a state that would be both separate and [Roman]

Catholic.

Wanted! The Search for Nazis in America by Howard Blum ISBN 0-449-23409-6, pages 153-4

It is extremely important to distinguish between Croats and Ustashi if

we are to understand the actual situation. Not all Croats were Ustashi.

Some Croats actively opposed the Ustashi. National populations and the

regimes that rule them are different entities. It is also important to

distinguish between a Croat and a Croatian. Not all Croatians are

Croats. Not all Croats are Croatians. Croatia is now, and was then, a

political entity, not an ethnic group. Croats are an ethnic group. They

are individuals just like the rest of us. Some are heroes, some are

villains, most are in between. Only a fool would confuse

http://slate.msn.com/Assessment/99-12-09/Assessment.asp

Franjo Tudjman with my personal favorite, Mira

http://www. geocities.com/~mfinfostation/mfishome.htm

http://mirafurlan.simplenet.com/mfletter.html

Furlan.

Neither should we lump all Serbs, let alone all Serbians, together. They

have undergone a plethora of demonization in the Western press recently.

But the fact is, Serbs, too, are a mixed lot. No ethnic group is without

its villains. But for the most part, Serbs have been victims. In

particular, it is unquestionable that many, many Serbs were victims of

the Holocaust. It's high time they were recognized as such, and that

some attempt at compensation was made. They deserve justice. So do all

the victims.

Personal observation has led me to doubt deeply that court proceedings

are the most effective means by which to achieve justice. But who knows,

maybe I'm wrong. It has happened before. So I'm following this case

closely. If you want to learn about some important history that's not

even over yet, you should follow the case too. At the very least, watch

this column for updates. But as you do, take care not to let your own

ethnic or religious prejudices make the situation any more confusing

than it already is. It's confusing enough already.

Read Up:

Vatican Bank

By Trust Betrayed by Hugh Gregory Gallagher, ISBN 0-8050-0749-0

In God's Name by David Yallop, ISBN 0-5521-3288-8

God's Banker by Rupert Cornwell, ISBN 0-396-08295-5

In Banks We Trust by Penny Lernoux, ISBN 0-385-18329-1

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