Australia's Foremost ABC Radio Broadcaster and Holocaust Believer

 

 

G'day, Phillip, me old atheist and Big-H believing mate
 
Concerning your confession in your latest item,' Now Peace it together', The Weekend Australian, May 25-26, 2002:
 
"... Judt sees Israelis 'still trapped in the story of their own uniqueness'. For many Jews, their entitlements derive from the Jewish community that existed in the territory of modern Israel thousands of years ago. Others claim that God gave them title to the lands if Judea and Samaria. Others - and I include myself in this category - cite the Holocaust, arguing that this greatest of atrocities allows Jews to make great claims on the world."
 
What a nonsense claim you make there! You know that it does not stand up to public scrutiny because its truth-content is zero. That is why all over the world there is this frenzy to enact laws that criminalize those who know this claim to be a mere Holocaust hoax, an extortion racket.
 
And are you part of this racket, Phillip? Is that your moral and intellectual racket? Is that why you attempt publicly to embarrass me and call our work "toxic sludge" because you know that we know you know the truth?
 
Further, in the Federal Court case before Branson, J, did you know that I offered Jeremy Jones an apology for my having offended him by us posting material on our website www.adelaideinstitute.org, but he rejected it. Why? Is he not sincere in his endeavours?
 
And did you know that the Launceston Olga Scully case, Federal Court judge (Hely) did not even ask Jones to prove his hurt by producing some documentation from a sociologist or psychiatrist as is usually done  in such personal injury cases?
 
Jones calls himself a Public Affairs Professional - and he claims hurtful feelings, without delivering proof. That's a repeat of the so-called Holocaust claims - without proof!
 
Don't you smell a rat somewhere, Phillip? 
 
Here is my 14 February 2002 offer to Jones:
 
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If you wish me formally to apologise to your client, Jeremy Jones, you have to prove to me that my held views in regard to the 'Holocaust' are factually wrong. Bearing in mind that I do not wish to believe but wish to know the facts, my definition of the term 'Holocaust' is:

'the systematic state-ordered extermination of European Jewry - six million - mainly in homicidal gas chambers, in particular at Auschwitz concentration camp'.

 

However, so that I can apologize with a clear conscience and retain my moral and intellectual integrity, I will require - in writing - from Jeremy Jones written proof-explanation of the following:

 

1. A Plan, a Budget and a Hitler Order that allegedly set the wheel of Nazi state-organised genocide in action. Any reference to the Wannsee Conference is invalid because eminent 'Holocaust' scholar, Professor Jehuda Bauer, has dismissed this claim as lacking any veracity. Professor Raul Hilberg's 'wink and nudge' theory is also rejected.

 

2. The Six Million Jewish Deaths number needs a detailed empirical foundation that includes the various reductions of the deaths number, for example at Auschwitz from four million to 1-1.5 million deaths. Reference also needs to be made to the number of compensation-pension claims made by 'Holocaust' survivors on the German state. Further, an explanation needs to be offered of the contents of Bryan Mark Rigg's 2002-published Hitler's Jewish Soldiers. The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military; about which John Kegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second World War said, "The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of the Nazi years".

 

3. The Function-Workings of the Murder Weapon - homicidal gas chamber needs to be shown or drawn. Special reference needs to be made to:

i.van Pelt/Dwork's claim that Krema I, Stammlager, was not a homicidal gas chamber; in Auschwitz 1270 To The Present, 1996, at p. 363-4.

ii. Gitta Sereny's statement in The Times, 29 August 2001, that Auschwitz was not ' a death camp'.

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Perhaps, Phillip, you ought to have on your program, Latenight Live, an interview with Nicholas Cowdery, QC, NSW Director of Public Prosecutions, who,  in a comment made on the program 'Truth in Public Life', Insight, SBS TV, 14 March 2002, said the following about our legal process:

"I think both politics and the law have become unnecessarily adversarial. We do have an adversarial legal system. Any thought that it is designed to find the truth of the matter, I'm afraid, is misplaced. It is ... a system which is based upon one case being pitched against another case. So you have two cases going head for head in an adversarial way. "

Here is the written apology that Jeremy Jones wishes me to sign. His legal team wrote it up for Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commissioner, Kathleen McEvoy. Guess what? She accepted it word for word. Since 2000 she has been the Dean of the Law School, University of Adelaide. What a legal mind!
 
When reading it, just remember that Jeremy Jones does not speak on behalf of Australia's Jewry, certainly not for the Jews who silently support our work!
 
"I hereby unreservedly and unconditionally apologise to you and to the Australian Jewish community for having published materials inciting hatred against the Jewish people in contravention of the Racial Discrimination Act.
I undertake that neither I nor any employee or agent of mine (actual or ostensible) will publish any such material in the future and that all such material which is presently published by me, or by any employee or agent of mine (actual or ostensible) in any print  or electronic media (including the Internet) will forthwith be withdrawn from publication".
 
 
Perhaps it would be wise to bring a little doubt into the Holocaust dogma by remembering what Xenophane said about truth:
 
"The gods did not reveal, from the beginning all things to us; but in the course of time, through seeking we may learn and know things better. But as for certain truth, no man has known it, nor will he know it; neither of the gods ,nor yet of the things of which I speak. And even if by chance he were to utter the final truth, he would himself not know it. For all is but a woven web of guesses."
 
This does not mean that we give up on  the quest for truth and fall into a hedonistic-nihilistic life-style where the pursuit of pleasure (profit) is everything. As concerned citizens we do have moral, social and legal duties to fulfill.
 
In any case, we just have to remind ourselves of what our engineers do when they are confronted with that reality-check.  If they fudge the measurements and don't calculate correctly because of a profit motive, then, for example, the bridge falls down. The truth concept is still the foundation on which our civilisation rests.
 
You may now follow Jeremy Jones versus Fredrick Töben in the Federal Court of Australia on 4 June 2002, and I wish you a happy couple of weeks R&R in Tasmania. Please be careful, though, don't get caught behind one of those logging trucks.
 
Sincerely
 
Fredrick Töben
 

 

 

SA PRESS CLUB September Luncheon Wednesday, 18th September 2002

  Guest Speaker: Phillip Adams AO

  Phillip Adams, millionaire socialist and sometime Marxist, addressed the Middle East tragedy, praising Robert Fisk’s work there as a reporter, and scathingly attacked President George Bush’s unilateralism. In particular he cited Charles Krauthammer as a spokesperson for a dangerous policy. Krauthammer will be interviewed in Adams’ Thursday evening’s program, 19 September 2002.Adams didn’t, of course, say that Krauthammer is a Zionist Jew who blindly supports the existence of the State of Israel.

Rex Jory, The Advertiser’s senior stafer, asked the first question. Jory raised the Federal Court of Australia’s judgment against Fredrick Töben, and he asked Adams what he thought of the Racial Discrimination Act. Adams replied that he had always opposed it; and this had lost him many friends. Both Jory and Adams supported Töben’s right to free speech, and both expressed their disgust at Toben’s views – the usual disclaimer that guarantees security of job and social profile, at least for the time being.

Fredrick Töben asked Adams the final question. He thanked Rex Jory for giving him the welcomed right-of-reply introduction. One of the SA Press Club’s ageing leftie committee members interjected with the usual, “Ask the question!” – and fortunately David Brockschmidt was there to oppose this spent force of left-wing authoritarianism.

Töben then addressed Phillip Adams, “Phillip, me old mate!” because a number of Töben’s supporters actually love to listen to Adams’ program on ABC Radio National, ‘Late Nigh Live’.

Töben asked him, in the light of the Federal Court decision, what he should do.

Adams replied that owing to the weight of historical evidence, “the best thing you can do is commit voluntary euthanasia and switch off.”

   

OPINION EDITORIAL, The Advertiser, Thursday, 19 September 2002

Not freedom but perversion of speech

Freedom of speech is essential to a functioning democracy. But everyone except absolutists, accept there are constraints. Many are imposed by (too constrictive) defamation laws. In Australia there are also the parameters provided by racial discrimination legislation.

It was the Federal Racial Discrimination Act which caused the Federal Court to order removal by the Adelaide Institute director Dr Fredrick Töben, one of the tiny and deluded band of Holocaust questioners, of offensive material from his Internet website.

The Internet is awash in fringe and downright crazy sites. Some are beyond jurisdiction to the rage, distress and sometimes fear of the targets of hate and vilification.

Whatever may be said about free speech in principle it is reasonable that Australians, born or resident, should comply with Australian law regardless of whether material in clear breach of the law is published on paper, broadcast on press and media, by word of mouth or disseminated through cyberspace.

The Internet factor added a novel element to Justice Catherine Branson’s finding but in all other respects it was consistent with the letter and spirit of law against material which is not only wrong but absurd, distressing and which is synonymous with the worst – by size and its vile, systematic organization – genocide in recorded history.

This was not freedom of speech but perversion of speech. In those terms, the court’s decision can be greeted as a victory for free thinking.

 

Fredrick Töben Replies

The editorial of 19/9 accuses us of ‘perversion of speech’ when, in fact, it is the other way round: Our work rests on physically proven facts.

Censoring our website’s content via the Racial Discrimination Act (RDA) proves the perversion of those that hold the Jewish people are a race – they are not.

Our historical research should never be subject of any court action because our legal system does not look for historical truths.

However, under the powers of the RDA  we have now a state-sanctioned ideological interpretation of an historical event.

Individuals from former Communist countries know that this kind of legal precedent leads directly to the dissident prison camps called Gulags.

That The Advertiser endorses this totalitarian mindset by labeling our work as a “perversion of speech” indicates a grave moral and intellectual crisis – a bankruptcy.

The truth-content of our message has never been challenged.

Dr Fredrick Töben , Director , Adelaide Institute

   

Editorial, The Australian, Thursday September 19 2002

Banning Hate on the net won’t work

 

Jeremy Jones, the president of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, did only what could have been expected. Fredrick Töben, an obsessional Holocaust denier sometimes called Australia’s David Irving, had continued to publish material disputing the existence of gas chambers at Auschwitz, and other material highly offensive to Jews. Dr Töben’s Adelaide Institute website was filled with what the council described as “malicious anti-Jewish propaganda”, such as blaming Jews for Stalin’s crimes.

Under the 1995 Racial Hatred Act, “public acts” that are “reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” a person or group because of race or colour, national or ethnic origin, are illegal. There is a very high proportion of Holocaust survivors in Australia, and no doubt Australia’s Jewish community was highly intimidated and offended by Dr Töben’s rantings. So Mr Jones took the case to the Human Rights Commission, then to the Federal Court.

But is tinkering with the bizarre internet site where Dr Töben spouts his incoherent, hateful drivel the best way to respond to such views, offensive though they are? The Federal Court has ordered Dr Töben to take the offensive material off his website within seven days, or face contempt and possible jail. This upholds a 2000 finding by the Human Rights Commission. Yet, by issuing the woolly order that he “do all acts and things necessary” to remove the racist material from his website, the Federal Court has conferred on Dr Töben the publicity and notoriety he clearly longs for.

Balancing the need to protect minorities from racial hatred with the right to free speech in a democracy is fraught with complexity; however, ordering the removal from a website of hate material is not the only option. Freedom of expression can be upheld, along with the rights of minorities. The NSW Council for Civil Liberties has suggested forcing Dr Töben to publish a detailed disclaimer on his site so that visitors know it contains lies that offend and intimidate Jews. They suggest he would be so incensed, he would rather take down his website altogether. The case highlights the difficulty and subjectivity of policing racial vilification legislation. The Australian’s columnist Phillip Adams, has been investigated for alleged racial vilification of Americans. French novelist Michel Houellebecq, an outspoken libertarian who says Islam is a stupid religion,is on trial for inciting racial hatred. But the writer likes to offend Jews, Arabs, Chinese and Americans too.

Fredrick Töben is a fringe-dwelling German-born peddler of anti-Semitic lies. It is not clear, however, that he was directly inciting people to commit racial violence. It is unfortunate that a man of Dr Töben’s dubious credentials should be made a martyr for free cyber-speech. But he should be able to print his nonsense, perhaps with qualifiers, rather than be forced on to an offshore site, or “underground” offline, where we can’t refute him. Robust public debate should be allowed, and heavy-handed censorship avoided at all cost – especially on the internet, which is more often than not a boon for the kind of free, intelligent expression that can trump Dr Töben and his anti-Jewish cronies. An open society is the best chance for tolerance.

   

Fredrick Töben replies

Shut up or put up! Please detail the lies on our website

Your editorial writer is rather confused and somewhat lacking in moral and intellectual courage. In fact, the defamatory comments, designed to denigrate my work, border on stupidity – and the author of this column must know this. Some time ago a journalist was assigned to do a hatched job on me – then later confessed to me that it was ‘ordered from above’. This is how I view the editorial in today’s Australian.

It indicates to me that there are individuals who are prepared to stoop to any level in order to retain their job and dubious social standing within a profession. Three decades ago journalists were considered to be “ink pissers”, but with the Internet, liberation has occurred where individuals could free themselves from the media dictatorship. Again we have emerging from the ruins of a ‘gutless’ profession (using Phillip Adams’ phrase) the prototype of a fearless journo, thanks to the Internet – and that is good for our moral and intellectual vigour.

I may ask the writer, what is my “incoherent, hateful drivel”? Where are my lies? Please detail then, point by point. If you can find one lie on our website, then please let me know.  But don’t be so silly and follow the Talmudic dialectic of the NSW Council for Civil Liberties.

We are the ones who oppose lying. For us telling the truth is wholesome because lying destroys trust – and without trust, relationships begin to break down, and societies fracture. But this is what the control freaks want to achieve because they cannot stand anyone who tells the truth. Without trust, there is no freedom of speech. We attempt to set an example of honest reporting!

If the term ‘Holocaust’ is defined as the systematic extermination of European Jewry in homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz, then all I am doing is rejecting the belief that a ‘Holocaust’ happened. I have not been convinced of the facts, and my two visits to Auschwitz have confirmed for me that physically it was not possible to gas so many people – in secret!

Further, those that believe this statement are accusing the Germans of a terrible crime – and anyone has the right to demand that the murder weapon, among other things, be produced as proof that such a murder took place.

Professor Robert Faurisson still waits for anyone to fulfill his challenge: “Show me or draw me the homicidal gas chambers!” Why, I ask, has this to date not been done? My answer is that it cannot be done because the gas chamber story is a lie!

Remember, a space museum has a rocket standing there as an exhibit. The Holocaust museum does not have a homicidal gas chamber as an exhibit. Why not? Because they never existed, and anyone who asserts anything about gas chambers is either ignorant of the facts, or they are lying.

Further, what was once sold to tourists as gas chambers – Krema I and Krema II – has now been admitted was not true. Now, it is alleged, the alleged gassings took place in two farmhouses outside of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration complex. The story keeps on changing and changing.

And now Australian law forces us to believe this new version – and that is mental rape. We are back to the days of the Soviet Union where Revisionists were sent to the Gulag prison system because they could not uphold the lies propagated by the state.

Sydney University has a Masters of Arts course in Holocaust studies. Now the so-called ‘Holocaust deniers’ will be fair game for them. The Australians editorial writer has now supported such a witch-hunt. Welcome Gulag Australia where dissenters will languish because they refuse to believe in the ‘Holocaust’ dogma-religion.

The disclaimer at the end for free speech rings hollow. We are not anti-Jewish. The so-called ‘Holocaust’ dogma should never have been the subject of any court order, certainly not under the Racial Discrimination Act – because being Jewish is a religious and not a racial matter.

Dr Fredrick Toben , Director , Adelaide Institute.

 

 

 

 

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